Eliminating Fossil Fuels is 'Aspirational, Not Practical,' Says Sen. Joe Manchin

“If you care about the climate, elimination is not the way to go. Innovation is.”

That was Senator Joe Manchin, D-W. Va., chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resource Committee, at a forum sponsored by General Electric and hosted by the news website Axios on the eve of President Joe Biden’s global climate summit last month.

That the summit was held during Earth Day was not a coincidence.

The forum, which also included as guests, Southern Company Chairman, President and CEO Thomas Fanning, and GE Chairman and CEO Larry Culp, was part of the media company’s “Energy Forward” series, which focuses on politics and policies surrounding sustainability, energy efficiency and new technologies in the coming decades.

On that very subject of America at the crossroads of a new energy frontier, Manchin said, at the present, we are still torn between what’s doable and what’s fanciful.

“We don’t have a practical approach, we have an aspirational one,” he said. And Manchin, whose state of West Virginia is second only to Wyoming in coal production, wants to underscore that trying to do away with the energy source, as many want to do, is economically indefensible, environmentally precipitous and linguistically lazy.

“It’s called global climate change, not U.S. climate change,” Manchin said.

In West Virginia, according to the state’s Office of Miners’ Health Safety and Training office, coal occurs in 53 of the state’s 55 counties, is responsible for approximately 30,000 direct jobs, including miners, contractors and coal preparation employees, provides 99 percent of the generated state electricity, and contributes more than $3.5 billion annually in the gross state product.

For Manchin, this fight is not just personal – it’s territorial.

“You cannot eliminate the carbon we have in our midst,” he said. “If you try to eliminate fossil (fuels), it’s not going to happen.”

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“If you care about the climate, elimination is not the way to go. Innovation is.”

That was Senator Joe Manchin, D-W. Va., chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resource Committee, at a forum sponsored by General Electric and hosted by the news website Axios on the eve of President Joe Biden’s global climate summit last month.

That the summit was held during Earth Day was not a coincidence.

The forum, which also included as guests, Southern Company Chairman, President and CEO Thomas Fanning, and GE Chairman and CEO Larry Culp, was part of the media company’s “Energy Forward” series, which focuses on politics and policies surrounding sustainability, energy efficiency and new technologies in the coming decades.

On that very subject of America at the crossroads of a new energy frontier, Manchin said, at the present, we are still torn between what’s doable and what’s fanciful.

“We don’t have a practical approach, we have an aspirational one,” he said. And Manchin, whose state of West Virginia is second only to Wyoming in coal production, wants to underscore that trying to do away with the energy source, as many want to do, is economically indefensible, environmentally precipitous and linguistically lazy.

“It’s called global climate change, not U.S. climate change,” Manchin said.

In West Virginia, according to the state’s Office of Miners’ Health Safety and Training office, coal occurs in 53 of the state’s 55 counties, is responsible for approximately 30,000 direct jobs, including miners, contractors and coal preparation employees, provides 99 percent of the generated state electricity, and contributes more than $3.5 billion annually in the gross state product.

For Manchin, this fight is not just personal – it’s territorial.

“You cannot eliminate the carbon we have in our midst,” he said. “If you try to eliminate fossil (fuels), it’s not going to happen.”

Manchin, who is seen as something of a dealbreaker on the president’s new $2 trillion infrastructure bill – which includes a number of energy provisions, said he has always tried to look at the best options available, even when it comes, for instance, to the TransCanada Keystone Pipeline.

“I’m never an obstacle. The oil is coming one way or another. I took a practical approach on it,” he said, adding that, specifically, as far as the Keystone XL is concerned, “it’s safer than it coming on trains or cars.”

That infrastructure bill, incidentally, would include new spending on climate change, including thousands more electric vehicle charging stations, millions for new energy-efficient homes, and help pave the way for the president’s goal for carbonfree power generation by 2035 and netzero emissions by 2050.

Fossil fuels, Manchin maintains, can be used in the most efficient and cleanest way – and that should be the country’s focus, he said.

Comparative Coal Consumption

And, in fact, it is, the senator said.

“If you believe we should be energy independent, then we have to work in the world of reality. Bottom line is we cleaned up more than any other country. Our coal plants are the cleanest,” said Manchin.

All of which brought the senator, during the forum, to reiterate his opposition to the Paris Climate Agreement, which Biden joined within hours of taking the oath of office on Jan. 20, and from which President Donald Trump officially withdrew as one of his last acts last November. Biden has since promised to cut greenhouse gas emissions at least in half by the end of the decade (or approximately 50 percent from 2005 levels), which is almost double the 26 to 28 percent target to which the nation committed under Obama.

Manchin pointed to what he sees as the agreement’s flaws.

“China shouldn’t be given a pass. It’s not a developing nation. They have not let up and they are the largest emitter of greenhouse gasses,” said Manchin, adding the accord has “No teeth.”

(At the virtual summit, to which 40 world leaders were invited and participated, Canada, Japan, Great Britain, and even Brazil all agreed to cut their emissions by varying degrees. Chinese President Xi Jinping promised his country would “phase down” coal consumption in the second half of this decade, which environmentalists regarded as a welcome development. In 2020, according to the South China Morning Post’s “China Macro Economy” page at SCMP.com, the country produced 3.84 billion tons of coal, its highest output since 2015, and 90 million tons more than 2019. It also imported another 304 million tons.)

In America, coal is trending in the opposite direction. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, since 2007, U.S. coal consumption has been on the decline. In 2019, coal generation was at a 42-year low, dropping by a record 16 percent, and, exacerbated by low energy prices due to COVID-19, fell even further during the first half of 2020. Renewable electricity output, by contrast, rose 5 percent in the first half of 2020, and natural-gas generation, which grew by 9 percent in the lower 48 states.

Fanning said Southern Company, which is the second-largest utility company in the United States, is all-in on the importance of the coming energy transition, promising, as well, to have netzero emissions by 2050, if not sooner.

On coal, he was less sanguine about its future than Manchin.

“Coal will be winding down along the way. Coal was at 70 percent when I started; 17 percent now,” he said.

CCUS is Key

One of the keys to future success, Fanning said, is carbon capture, utilization and storage and how fast technology moves in that direction. On this point, Manchin agreed, pointing to the more than $35 billion dollars allocated to CCUS and other related research in last year’s energy bill that he supported.

“We can do carbon capture sequestration,” he said. “It is the thing that needs to be done.”

“People have to remember that things that are out of the mind today,” said Fanning, referring to the technological challenges, “will be in the mind tomorrow. I think carbon capture is so important because gas will not go away; therefore, capturing whatever emissions come out of it is necessary.”

General Electric’s Culp, too, said the country should move quickly on carbon elimination and invest in sustainable technology.

“I’m excited to see the administration organize the summit and hoping real action will come,” he said.

Toward a ‘Coherent Energy Policy’

When asked if United States “has any credibility left” in developing a worldwide energy blueprint, considering that the Paris Accords and Keystone XL, as two prime examples, have been alternately rejected and supported by incoming administrations, Culp said he’s heartened by the new dynamic.

“You can’t debate the commitment of this administration. Business is a full partner and what the world will see is a full-throated effort to lead and a sustainable partner,” he said.

Like Fanning, Culp doesn’t believe there will be a single silver bullet approach.

“We’re going to need gas, in combination with renewables,” said Culp, bringing up the promise of offshore wind generation, which he believes will be “a great step forward.”

“Offshore wind makes a very big difference,” he said.

And while acknowledging that Europe was ahead of the United States in developing this technology, he believes the gap has been closing.

“We have taken important steps. Clearly, we need to do a lot more, though, and have some catching up to do,” said Culp.

A bright spot, he said, was GE’s Haliade-X, the world’s most powerful offshore wind turbine, located in Rotterdam- Maasvlakte, in the Netherlands, which came online last year. According to the company, one rotation of the turbine, which stands at a total height of 853 feet, could power a UK household for more than two days.

Fanning, too, believes that whatever the future looks like, there is no going at it alone if we want to have a coherent national energy policy, pointing to the fact that 80 percent of the country’s energy grid – more than 7,300 power plants and transformers and 450,000 miles of transmission lines – is owned by the private sector.

“We’ll need all the help from the administration and all the arrows in the quiver, which means a big emphasis will need to be placed on renewables, tax incentives for hydrogen, as well as storage technology. We all have to work together. See the battlefield and react to it,” he said.

For his part, Manchin, talking about both the infrastructure bill and the how important it is for the country to get energy right.

“God help us if we can’t get together on that,” he said.

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